I've tried to remove shouts from my 'spellbook' then start quest, but no luck. ![]() Any fixes? - Unsigned comment by 173.79.132.130 (talk) at 01:52 on 13 December 2011 Same problem here. I have tried using the console to start mq204 but no luck. Unsigned comment by 99.232.174.26 (talk) at 15:25 on 9 December 2011 I wish there was a way to fix this. Any ideas that do not involve me having to start over would be appreciated. I have been to the top of the mountain but the dragon does not spawn. Getstage shows MQ203 (Alduin's Wall) at 300, but MQ204 (The Throat of the World) at 0. Clear Skies seems to be the only shout I cannot unlearn. I had no idea it was central to the story. The only thing I can imagine might have caused this is that I added the Clear Skies shout early, just to see the night sky more often. Anyone have any idea why it doesn't work? Has this happened to anyone else?-Thomas Christian 18:59, 20 November 2011 (UTC) to get this quest if you get the bug after alduins wall quest stand next to the talking greybeard and enter in the console setstage mq204 10 and the quest will start :) - Unsigned comment by 90.224.43.42 (talk) at 00:07 on 30 November 2011 I am having the same problem and the solution above did not fix it (but thank you for posting it). I first thought it was messed up due to me using 'tmm 1', so I went to a save before I used that code, and it still won't work. Arngeir won't say anything to me about it. I've tried using the console to 'startquest mq204', I've tried using 'setstage mq204 #', where # is any of the stages, and yet the quest won't start. After I finish the quest Alduin's Wall, this quest won't start. Most of the Forsworn will be busy fighting the dragon giving you the chance to run past them and enter Karthspire itself.Hey, I've got a problem. You can actually skip a large portion of the fight by dashing through the camp and entering Karthspire itself.They are marked as "essential" in the game, meaning they will only fall down to one knee when they run out of health but will never actually die-even when a dragon is breathing spouts of fire down their throats. You don’t need to worry about Esbern and Delphine dying during the fight in the camp.This also gives you the added benefit of pulling only a few Forsworn at a time, giving you a series of easy fights instead of one big rumble against the entire camp. You can also pick off a few Forsworn by slowly advancing upon the camp, bringing out a bow and unleashing ranged sneak attacks against the Forsworn that you first come across.You can then walk in and mop up the survivors after one side finishes the other off. Creep close enough to the camp, and the Forsworn will start shooting arrows at the dragon, which will obligingly begin chewing up the Forsworn for you. If you position yourself well, you can actually set things up so that the dragon and Forsworn will fight each other.Prepare your weapons, spells, potions, and armor for a fierce fight if you choose to run head-long into the camp. If that’s not bad enough, you’ll also have to deal with a dragon that is flying around the camp. A camp filled with Forsworn will block your way to Sky Haven Temple. Force your way through the Karthspire Camp.
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